Several times during the year I see posts on various fly-tying forums asking “what vice should I buy? Either novice tiers trying to figure out what they need or others who have experience and want to compare notes and see what’s out there. The answers are often from people who act like evangelists who have discovered a religion. They pound the virtues of a particular brand like it was the only one out there. Some have never seriously tried other brands but speak only of the brand they know, like it was the holy grail.
Lets get real. A vice is a personal thing and as you grow as a tier you may graduate to different brands, although some people land on the right mark with something they like and stay with it for a lifetime. As an example I have a friend who has tied on a Thompson for the last almost 60 years. A testament to a vices durability certainly, but more so a testament to a tier. After all it’s the tier not the vice that produces the fly. A vice is the tool that will make tying easier and gives you the opportunity to view the hook in a static position.
I’ve tied for about 55 now and have a few great models that I love. There are a lot of great brands out there. The trick is to find one that suits you. There is no such thing as the perfect vice for all tiers. It comes down to finding what suites the individual. What will you enjoy working on? I’ve been blessed to watch a few tiers who do stunning Atlantic salmon patterns with no vice at all but in hand, vices are a more recent invention. My grandfather tied winged wet flies in hand a method he taught me when I was a dumb kid in the 60’s and didn’t appreciate it then. Only now I have come to appreciate the methods in the last few years. He tied this way till his passing at a merry 107. Not as fast and with failing eyes but still a fly that would tempt a trout. His last artful creations site quietly at my tying desk to remind me of my roots and mentors tying ways.
I often hear people refer to a single vice as if you would only be allowed to buy “one” in a lifetime. I own a few wonderful brands new and vintage that I treasure and have just ordered another high end one. Comparatively I also have quite a number of fly rods, in Bamboo Fiberglass and graphite. Vices like rods are often designed with a particular purpose. Sometimes they are designed for a particular market or need.
How do you find what you like? Try different vices out. I believe any good fly shop worth it’s salt will let you site with a vice and tie a fly if you are in a serious buying mode. Try before you buy is always good horse sense. Look also to other tiers who might be friends who own brands of vices that you may like the look of, or have heard good things about. Another great place is your local fly tying club. You will find a group of people who are normally free with their knowledge, they often have great fly tying courses. More important to my direction here a lot of different vices that you can look at and watch people tie on, and if the tier agrees let you tie on.
As in all products there is garbage out there. Cheap products that are put out to make a fast buck that will either not last very long. Or worst will frustrate the tier to the point of withdrawing from tying and sometimes quitting altogether. I ran across a gentleman a couple of years ago who I tied with at a local club. His vise an offshore brand I had never heard of, would not hold the fly properly, fixed at the wrong height and angle. Altogether frustrating for him trying to fight with this cheaply made monster. I insisted he sit at mine for a while and what a difference in his attitude. Previously working materials was a chore now it had turned into a joy. There was a new sparkle and vigor to his ties. I watched as he left at the end of the meeting and tossed his old vice in the trashcan. Probably where it belonged in the first place. A product obviously not designed by someone who needed to use it. Next meeting he showed up with a new vice, a second hand one but a good solidly built brand, he was one happy tier.
What do you look for in a vice? There are lots of options here. You should first decide whether you want a Pedestal or clamp type (or a both don’t limit yourself). Clamp type vices mount to the edge of a table or workbench via a C-clamp like device. Very nice and solid, they also work great on a campground picnic table or handy two by for if your tying camp side or stream side. There is also a mount for some vices that is like a sharp nail that will drive into a handy log. The pedestal type relies on a weighted metal base that is heavy enough not to move during the motions of tying. They are nice as you can place them anywhere and are quick to set up. All have positive features. Many tiers will purchase both options to make their vices more universal. Or if you’re like me purchase several vices.
The jaws are the important part. Look for a unit with jaws that will fit the kind and size of flies you intend to tie. If you tend to do a lot of very small trout ties from # 18 down to #22 a fine jaw is often needed, whereas large salmon, Steelhead or salt water hooks need a large solid jaw to handle the stress of large hooks and tension on the tie. This is where several vices or changeable jaws are often a better option. Most models are generally made to handle the #10 to #18 sizes.
I’ve tried out pretty much all of the major brands some I liked, some I was indifferent to, others I hated. It is personal choice in the end. A decent vice that does it’s job is what you need. And need is what we are talking about here. A novice tier usually wants a solid basic vice that performs well and works for the occasional tie. Many people tie a few flies and buy the rest. Purchasing those dressed bugs that are perhaps beyond their abilities or patience. Its’ all OK, however you prefer to do it. You may be a mainline tier that just likes to tie, and does a full box compliment. Then also there’s the person who turns out commercial products for sale large or small volume and needs a solid production or perhaps specialty vice. A good rotary model, that will handle all aspects of the materials used and styles tied.
I guess my point in all of this is; do your research look at different products and make an educated not a snap decision. There are lots of reviews out there certainly, not always by experienced tiers, sometimes by the manufactures or the sales guys, and that give skewed reviews. Do your own testing, after all you should enjoy tying, if not go buy your flies.
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